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		<title>By: Sammy F. Smith</title>
		<link>http://petsalive.com/blog/2009/11/14/failing-oreo/comment-page-1/#comment-55223</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy F. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I my honest opinion all Oreo needed was time. Given the right amount of time and
patience Oreo would more than likely have replaced the haunted memory of a
tortured puppy hood and attempted murder with thoughts of love and care from her
new person. She was used as a political pawn by the ASPCA and is now (after
death) being used for the same purpose by PETA.
Shifting the subject from her to the hundreds of animals killed in New York
every year is a cop out. It&#039;s a coward&#039;s way out of the responsibility of
killing a dog that had people who offered an alternative other than death.

The more I read about PETA the less I like it. The nude picture of that actress
holding a cross that covered her teets was not only in poor taste but,
again,,,IMHO blasphemous. Our Lord and savior Jesus Christ bled, suffered and
died on the cross and the image of the cross should never be featured in a
pornographic photo. It&#039;s not only disrespectful it&#039;s just wrong on many many
levels.

Do you see how I&#039;ve shifted the subject of PETA&#039;s stand on the subject of Oreo away from her to the subject of the photo? That puts PETA as well as the ASPCA on the defense. They&#039;ve done exactly the same thing by mentioning all the other animals that the ASPCA will kill in the future. It&#039;s a weak attempt at best.

I will not only &quot;NEVER&quot; donate a single red cent to either group. I will do everything I can to convince others to withdraw funding as well. Eliminate the
killer and the killing will stop.

Sammy F. Smith

I fully support Pets Alive and Oreo&#039;s law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I my honest opinion all Oreo needed was time. Given the right amount of time and<br />
patience Oreo would more than likely have replaced the haunted memory of a<br />
tortured puppy hood and attempted murder with thoughts of love and care from her<br />
new person. She was used as a political pawn by the ASPCA and is now (after<br />
death) being used for the same purpose by PETA.<br />
Shifting the subject from her to the hundreds of animals killed in New York<br />
every year is a cop out. It&#8217;s a coward&#8217;s way out of the responsibility of<br />
killing a dog that had people who offered an alternative other than death.</p>
<p>The more I read about PETA the less I like it. The nude picture of that actress<br />
holding a cross that covered her teets was not only in poor taste but,<br />
again,,,IMHO blasphemous. Our Lord and savior Jesus Christ bled, suffered and<br />
died on the cross and the image of the cross should never be featured in a<br />
pornographic photo. It&#8217;s not only disrespectful it&#8217;s just wrong on many many<br />
levels.</p>
<p>Do you see how I&#8217;ve shifted the subject of PETA&#8217;s stand on the subject of Oreo away from her to the subject of the photo? That puts PETA as well as the ASPCA on the defense. They&#8217;ve done exactly the same thing by mentioning all the other animals that the ASPCA will kill in the future. It&#8217;s a weak attempt at best.</p>
<p>I will not only &#8220;NEVER&#8221; donate a single red cent to either group. I will do everything I can to convince others to withdraw funding as well. Eliminate the<br />
killer and the killing will stop.</p>
<p>Sammy F. Smith</p>
<p>I fully support Pets Alive and Oreo&#8217;s law.</p>
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		<title>By: Aubrie Kavanaugh</title>
		<link>http://petsalive.com/blog/2009/11/14/failing-oreo/comment-page-1/#comment-54969</link>
		<dc:creator>Aubrie Kavanaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to get too far off track but Stellaluna asked if Best Friends is one of the big guys or good guys. In my opinion, Best Friends is the only large national organization worthy of my support and my money. They talk and talk and walk the walk, as the good folks at Pets Alive surely know. I realize the Best Friends can only take a very, very, very small percentage of the animals in need across the country. I&#039;ve asked them for help myself and have not had any luck placing an animal with them. But I will say this, I have had direct contact with more people at Best Friends than I can probably count when I&#039;ve needed networking help, advice and resource support. I&#039;ve even dealt directly with some of the founding members. That would never happen with the other big groups who use their millions in ways I will never understand.

I keep waiting for Best Friends to open a second sanctuary called &quot;Southern Friends&quot; - great location for rescue response and mill saves. I&#039;d ditch this job in about .2 seconds and scoop poop to work for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to get too far off track but Stellaluna asked if Best Friends is one of the big guys or good guys. In my opinion, Best Friends is the only large national organization worthy of my support and my money. They talk and talk and walk the walk, as the good folks at Pets Alive surely know. I realize the Best Friends can only take a very, very, very small percentage of the animals in need across the country. I&#8217;ve asked them for help myself and have not had any luck placing an animal with them. But I will say this, I have had direct contact with more people at Best Friends than I can probably count when I&#8217;ve needed networking help, advice and resource support. I&#8217;ve even dealt directly with some of the founding members. That would never happen with the other big groups who use their millions in ways I will never understand.</p>
<p>I keep waiting for Best Friends to open a second sanctuary called &#8220;Southern Friends&#8221; &#8211; great location for rescue response and mill saves. I&#8217;d ditch this job in about .2 seconds and scoop poop to work for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Ketz</title>
		<link>http://petsalive.com/blog/2009/11/14/failing-oreo/comment-page-1/#comment-54946</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Ketz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody&#039;s on a power trip with little regard to the big picture.  

You Mr. Sayres should be ashamed of yourself and lose sleep at night.  You denied this dog a second chance after already doing so much for her.  If she truly was aggressive, why not provide her the opportunity with an established organization who routinely cares and rehabilitates dogs such as Oreo.   

All you had to do was to hand her over and be done with her.  

I question whether or not you do what you do because you truly love animals or because the pay is good?  I would think that a true passion for animals is a prerequisite for the position you hold, or is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody&#8217;s on a power trip with little regard to the big picture.  </p>
<p>You Mr. Sayres should be ashamed of yourself and lose sleep at night.  You denied this dog a second chance after already doing so much for her.  If she truly was aggressive, why not provide her the opportunity with an established organization who routinely cares and rehabilitates dogs such as Oreo.   </p>
<p>All you had to do was to hand her over and be done with her.  </p>
<p>I question whether or not you do what you do because you truly love animals or because the pay is good?  I would think that a true passion for animals is a prerequisite for the position you hold, or is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Luliegirl</title>
		<link>http://petsalive.com/blog/2009/11/14/failing-oreo/comment-page-1/#comment-54938</link>
		<dc:creator>Luliegirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Kevin Boylan: I wish everyone would pay attention to the story. 
The healthy picture of Oreo that you see is AFTER her rehabilitation - the ASPCA nursed her back to health after her abuse and then killed her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Kevin Boylan: I wish everyone would pay attention to the story.<br />
The healthy picture of Oreo that you see is AFTER her rehabilitation &#8211; the ASPCA nursed her back to health after her abuse and then killed her.</p>
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		<title>By: Debie P.</title>
		<link>http://petsalive.com/blog/2009/11/14/failing-oreo/comment-page-1/#comment-54932</link>
		<dc:creator>Debie P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was outraged by what I read here and have posted my own thoughts concerning Oreo as well as recent ASPCA activity in my area that is very very suspect.
http://dogsdollarssense.blogspot.com/2009/11/hot-topic-aspca-failure-of-oreo.html
Thank You so much for bringing these important issues to light!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was outraged by what I read here and have posted my own thoughts concerning Oreo as well as recent ASPCA activity in my area that is very very suspect.<br />
<a href="http://dogsdollarssense.blogspot.com/2009/11/hot-topic-aspca-failure-of-oreo.html" rel="nofollow">http://dogsdollarssense.blogspot.com/2009/11/hot-topic-aspca-failure-of-oreo.html</a><br />
Thank You so much for bringing these important issues to light!</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://petsalive.com/blog/2009/11/14/failing-oreo/comment-page-1/#comment-54918</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We want specific facts about Oreo from the ASPCA; we want Oreo&#039;s  complete and untampered with chart made public.  We want a court hearing on the care Oreo received while at the ASPCA. Something&#039;s wrong with the picture Ed Sayres is painting.  We want to hear from everyone in Oreo&#039;s chain of care, under oath, as to who Oreo was &quot;aggressive&quot; with; clearly there were those Oreo was not aggressive with.  It is obvious from the information and pictures that Oreo&#039;s aggression seemed to be medically related, and with only some people.  Did they give her adequate pain relief for her medical treatment?  Obviously not.  Did Oreo have mainly male aggression?  This ASPCA reported that Oreo was doing fine a short time ago, and that she would be adopted out soon.  The ASPCA admitted Oreo became aggressive under their care.  Maybe this ASPCA shouldn&#039;t be &quot;caring&quot; for animals anymore.  

No court had ordered Oreo&#039;s killing.  If they had, there could have been an emergency stay of execution requested on Oreo&#039;s behalf,  and the facts of her case heard in a court of law.  A judge should have made a decision about Oreo, not Sayres.  Oreo had not bitten or mauled anyone.  Oreo&#039;s case was in the courts already, so what was the court order concerning Oreo?  Did Ed Sayres violate this court order?   Did Sayres&#039; decision to kill Oreo have anything to do with the NY Pit Bull law, pressured by those not wanting to show that an abused Pit-mix could be rehabilitated?  

Sayres took money from the public to care for Oreo, commiting himself to giving her the best possible care and acting completely in Oreo&#039;s best interest; this did not happen.  We want answers.  

Years ago, a town would have tarred and feathered Sayres.  Now Sayres has the right to be heard in court.  So let&#039;s hear what Sayres has to say.   If Sayres doesn&#039;t get why so many people are outraged by Oreo&#039;s killing, then he has no business working in an animal shelter.   

We want to claim Oreo&#039;s body and bury her in a park setting as a memorial to Oreo and all the other animals who have been mistreated and unnecessarily executed at the hands of so called &#039;shelters.&#039;  The ASPCA having a memorial service for Oreo is like the monster who threw Oreo off the roof having a memorial service for her; completely hypocritical.  We don&#039;t want a memorial service for Oreo at the ASPCA, we want to see Ed Sayres in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We want specific facts about Oreo from the ASPCA; we want Oreo&#8217;s  complete and untampered with chart made public.  We want a court hearing on the care Oreo received while at the ASPCA. Something&#8217;s wrong with the picture Ed Sayres is painting.  We want to hear from everyone in Oreo&#8217;s chain of care, under oath, as to who Oreo was &#8220;aggressive&#8221; with; clearly there were those Oreo was not aggressive with.  It is obvious from the information and pictures that Oreo&#8217;s aggression seemed to be medically related, and with only some people.  Did they give her adequate pain relief for her medical treatment?  Obviously not.  Did Oreo have mainly male aggression?  This ASPCA reported that Oreo was doing fine a short time ago, and that she would be adopted out soon.  The ASPCA admitted Oreo became aggressive under their care.  Maybe this ASPCA shouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;caring&#8221; for animals anymore.  </p>
<p>No court had ordered Oreo&#8217;s killing.  If they had, there could have been an emergency stay of execution requested on Oreo&#8217;s behalf,  and the facts of her case heard in a court of law.  A judge should have made a decision about Oreo, not Sayres.  Oreo had not bitten or mauled anyone.  Oreo&#8217;s case was in the courts already, so what was the court order concerning Oreo?  Did Ed Sayres violate this court order?   Did Sayres&#8217; decision to kill Oreo have anything to do with the NY Pit Bull law, pressured by those not wanting to show that an abused Pit-mix could be rehabilitated?  </p>
<p>Sayres took money from the public to care for Oreo, commiting himself to giving her the best possible care and acting completely in Oreo&#8217;s best interest; this did not happen.  We want answers.  </p>
<p>Years ago, a town would have tarred and feathered Sayres.  Now Sayres has the right to be heard in court.  So let&#8217;s hear what Sayres has to say.   If Sayres doesn&#8217;t get why so many people are outraged by Oreo&#8217;s killing, then he has no business working in an animal shelter.   </p>
<p>We want to claim Oreo&#8217;s body and bury her in a park setting as a memorial to Oreo and all the other animals who have been mistreated and unnecessarily executed at the hands of so called &#8217;shelters.&#8217;  The ASPCA having a memorial service for Oreo is like the monster who threw Oreo off the roof having a memorial service for her; completely hypocritical.  We don&#8217;t want a memorial service for Oreo at the ASPCA, we want to see Ed Sayres in court.</p>
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		<title>By: Aubrie Kavanaugh</title>
		<link>http://petsalive.com/blog/2009/11/14/failing-oreo/comment-page-1/#comment-54914</link>
		<dc:creator>Aubrie Kavanaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The frustration I feel about this whole situation is incredible and I&#039;m thousands of miles away.  Doubletalk. Thinkspeak. Yes, it is quite Orwellian so I&#039;ll add one:

blackwhite: &quot;this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts . . . but it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary.&quot;

How is it that it is so obvious to so many that what happened was wrong, unethical and shameful while to so many others it was right, merciful and necessary? We say black. They say white.

May we all live to see the day when large organizations like this which have the general public fooled are exposed for what they are and ultimately wither and become unprofitable because people will no longer support them. May we live to see the day when the truths written of in &quot;Redemption&quot; are known to all and when the killing of healthy animals is part of our shameful past.

Sorry, guys. I&#039;m a little wound up.

1984 - George Orwell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The frustration I feel about this whole situation is incredible and I&#8217;m thousands of miles away.  Doubletalk. Thinkspeak. Yes, it is quite Orwellian so I&#8217;ll add one:</p>
<p>blackwhite: &#8220;this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts . . . but it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary.&#8221;</p>
<p>How is it that it is so obvious to so many that what happened was wrong, unethical and shameful while to so many others it was right, merciful and necessary? We say black. They say white.</p>
<p>May we all live to see the day when large organizations like this which have the general public fooled are exposed for what they are and ultimately wither and become unprofitable because people will no longer support them. May we live to see the day when the truths written of in &#8220;Redemption&#8221; are known to all and when the killing of healthy animals is part of our shameful past.</p>
<p>Sorry, guys. I&#8217;m a little wound up.</p>
<p>1984 &#8211; George Orwell</p>
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		<title>By: OREO: From Miracle Dog to Dead Dog in 124 days&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://petsalive.com/blog/2009/11/14/failing-oreo/comment-page-1/#comment-54906</link>
		<dc:creator>OREO: From Miracle Dog to Dead Dog in 124 days&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stellaluna</title>
		<link>http://petsalive.com/blog/2009/11/14/failing-oreo/comment-page-1/#comment-54902</link>
		<dc:creator>Stellaluna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused -- is Best Friends one of the &quot;big guys&quot; or one of the &quot;good guys&quot;?

Because our shelter has contacted them numerous times about animals that really needed help, and have yet to have them step up to the plate to do anything. In most cases, not even a return call. We&#039;ve given their contact information to other groups who were trying desperately to save animals who had no other chance, and they&#039;ve reported the same results.

It appears that they, like many other influential groups, will only assist in the big media cases -- the ones that bring in the big donations. So does this make them &quot;good guys&quot; or &quot;bad guys&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused &#8212; is Best Friends one of the &#8220;big guys&#8221; or one of the &#8220;good guys&#8221;?</p>
<p>Because our shelter has contacted them numerous times about animals that really needed help, and have yet to have them step up to the plate to do anything. In most cases, not even a return call. We&#8217;ve given their contact information to other groups who were trying desperately to save animals who had no other chance, and they&#8217;ve reported the same results.</p>
<p>It appears that they, like many other influential groups, will only assist in the big media cases &#8212; the ones that bring in the big donations. So does this make them &#8220;good guys&#8221; or &#8220;bad guys&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Roni</title>
		<link>http://petsalive.com/blog/2009/11/14/failing-oreo/comment-page-1/#comment-54899</link>
		<dc:creator>Roni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said - I&#039;m sick of these &quot;so called no-kills&quot; who justify the killing of innocent animals - The SPCA failed Oreo.  I think we need to have an animal statute in every US state that will not allow for any animal to be euthanized when another shelter or rescue organization is willing to take on the animal.

I had a similar incident with a cat that was owned but the shelter wouldn&#039;t acknowledge the ownership of the animal - so while the owners were getting the court ordered stay - the shelter exec director euthanized the cat knowing full well that another agency, was willing to take the animal and it that it was owned.  That same shelter then just days later had the nerve to ask the other agency to help them with another cat problem - all the while soliciting funds in communities that they did not service.

People need to wake up and really check out just where they are sending their donations.  The big guys are not necessarily the best guys when it comes to animal welfare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said &#8211; I&#8217;m sick of these &#8220;so called no-kills&#8221; who justify the killing of innocent animals &#8211; The SPCA failed Oreo.  I think we need to have an animal statute in every US state that will not allow for any animal to be euthanized when another shelter or rescue organization is willing to take on the animal.</p>
<p>I had a similar incident with a cat that was owned but the shelter wouldn&#8217;t acknowledge the ownership of the animal &#8211; so while the owners were getting the court ordered stay &#8211; the shelter exec director euthanized the cat knowing full well that another agency, was willing to take the animal and it that it was owned.  That same shelter then just days later had the nerve to ask the other agency to help them with another cat problem &#8211; all the while soliciting funds in communities that they did not service.</p>
<p>People need to wake up and really check out just where they are sending their donations.  The big guys are not necessarily the best guys when it comes to animal welfare.</p>
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